今天母親節,特別貼出一段有意思的影片



電影「心靈點滴」真實主人翁Dr.Patch Adams 在這段訪問中,讚賞「媽媽」的平凡又偉大的愛的力量。


感謝Peggy笑長幫忙聽寫出英文如下: (您如有發現錯誤,請不吝告知)


Q:  Why?  Why do you do this? What is the reason?
A:  I want a world where no one alive, can remember the word "War" means.  
A world freed of violence and injustice where everyone is equal.

Q:  So. Also, Mr. Yunus said. Nobel..of all our economy...
A:  I know him!

Q: Think. Said the same thing of you.  It's interesting isn't it.  
A: All healthy women, said the same thing.  All the problems of the world are due to men.

Q:  But?!
A:  But?! Why does it happen?  

Q:  Yeah.
A:  Seven thousand years ago, men chose to worship money and power over.  This is why no political system works.  No political system.  Because the value system is money and power-over.  This is our God.  The God of the West.  Th God of the East.

Q:  At the moment. yeah!
A:  Well, for seven thousand years... long time....!   So, This behavior is unusual in a man.  Maybe that's why you interview me.  But it's just a normal woman, everywhere.

Q:  But. Something changed in your life.  One thing, when you started medicine. Something..., Something up and....
A:  No. No...  I had a great mother.  My mother made my brother and I, and we worked together both of our lives.  He still worked together.  He's 65. I'm 64. We work for love, because of our mother.
My mother showed us a miracle of being nice, of being kind, of being generous as a way of life.  This did not made me political, until I grew up and realize that her world, was not the world.  My father was a military man. professional.

Q:  I didn't know this.
A:  He died as a solder.  I become a war orphan at the age of 16.

Q:  In Vietnam?
A:  No. No.  Much earlier.

Q:  The Second World War?
A:  Korea

Q:  In Korea. Okay.
A:  And, we've moved back to the United States to the South in 1961, which was in the great baffle for civil rights for our black people who had no rights.  
And so, I was beaten up everyday for the last two years in high school, and then I want to kill myself.  I didn't want to live, in a world of violence and injustice.  So, three times in one year.  I was hospitalized for this desire to die.  
And then, who knows, lightening "KeeeKeehh..." hits me and said, "Stupid! You don't kill yourself.  You make revolution.  So, at the age of 18, I began a evolution for loving.  And it was easy to do because my mother gave me self-esteem.  You understand 
"self-esteem"?

Q:  Yes.  I understand.
A:  She made me know, if I decided something, I can do it.

Q:  So, You do it.

A:  for 46 years.  No breaks.

Q:  Many things changed around you. Because if you do it in a hospital, in every hospital, in Europe, I know, I think also in US.  You see many people? or who make your theory practiced?  All the the top people who make , make clowning.
A:  But you know!  They avoid my theories really.

Q:  But it is something.
A:  Let me explain to you,  Clowning in a hospital is like; this one hair on my head.  You understand, my idea is to end market capitalism.  The idea why clown in the hospital, because hospitals are horrible places.  No one likes being in a hospital.  Hierarchy with a doctor can be rude and arrogant, and treat the nurse badly and everybody also badly.  A hospital is serious, technological... No, no medical school in the world teaches Compassion.

Q:  Compassion.
A:  And when I was a medical student I see.   But long before I go to medical school, I see a world that is serious.  At 18,  when I decided to make this love revolution.  I started to clown everywhere not think about hospital, nursing home because the adult world was serious. The adult world was oppressed by this global idea of money and power-over are God.  And so, when I go to medical school I start a hospital that is free, that is equal, everybody is equal, that you have a lot of time with patients, that you live with patients, you have lots of Art. These were the ideas that I was working on, not clowning in a hospital.  This is just a, A Taste...  But, a movie comes alone. Qeee.... MOVIE!  And a movie wants to sell tickets.

Q:  Yeah.
A:  So Love doesn't sell tickets.  Peace doesn't  sell tickets, Justice doesn't sell tickets. Two things sell tickets;  Violence and Funny.  So they shrink Patch. "Shirking", you know "SHRINK".  They make him very small into a funny doctor.  yalyala..... So then, the people see the movie, and then, they go Patch!  Ya, funny Doctor!!  Not doctor who whats to end capitalism, not doctor who wants to the world to be loving.

Q:  Yeah
A:  And even the people who look at he film and become clowns in hospital they don't even think maybe I should clown on the street.

Q:  Perhaps it's also.. I think...uhh....I know there is limit of movie, but perhaps...uhh...it would be important to know of the people.... some prospective of your life,  perhaps.... not your philosophy of life.... perhaps. Deeper, more deeper than a movie. yeah.  But  perhaps there are positives also in the movie.
A:  Well, if you let what I am saying in this interview, than you came here because of the movie, and I can say things that are important.

Q:  But I know what are many deeper things...uhh..., after the color of your shirt, I know,  I feel it.
A:  But see,  the way I dress is part of the message.

Q:  Yes.
A:  To put joy in public's face.  Also, whenever I see violence in public, I change into my clown character, stops violence.  And it is to connect people.  If I look this way, and not your way.

Q:  Sorry!
A  Then it is much easier to connect.  Can I say something while I'm here in Milano?

Q:  Yes. Yes.  I know, for teaching...
A:  I'm here with three groups.   Irowen  Group, Kazontai  Institute, which is about free medicine and joyful medicine, and not hierarchical medicine.  And medicine as an joyful celebration.

Q: Ok
A:  I'm her also as a part of ClownOne Italia which...

Q:  make training of other people...
A:  What clown Italia does training of other people.

Q:  of your philosophy.
A: and different than formal training; Certificate training of clowning.  It is about a spirit of being a loving person.  ClownOne Italia also does clown trips in Italy and does workshops to help people become love revolutionary.

Q:  Okay.
A:  And the third group I'm here with, this school of designing a society, which is a romantic idea, that we can teach people to be revolutionaries for loving change to move away from market capitalism to a world of compassion and generosity.
 

用google自動網頁翻譯成中文如下:(約有60%--70%的準確度)總笑長加以部份修正(您如有發現錯誤,請不吝告知)

問:為什麼?你為什麼要這樣做?這是什麼原因?
A:我希望這個世界上,所有活著的人,都忘記“戰爭”這個詞的意思。
一個沒有暴力和不義的人人平等的世界。
問:那麼。另外,尤努斯先生說。 ..我們所有的諾貝爾經濟 ...
A:我知道他!
問:想。說過同樣的話你。有趣的是吧。
A:所有的身心健康婦女,說了同樣的事情。所有世界的問題是由於男性。
問:但是?!
答:但是?!為什麼會發生?
問:是的。
答:七千年前,男人選擇了崇拜金錢和權力了。這就是為什麼沒有一個政治系統可以正常運作。沒有一種正常的政治制度。價值觀就是「金錢和權力」。這才是我們真實的「神」。西方的「神」是如此。東方的「神」也是如此。
問:在時刻。是啊!
答:嗯,七千年...很長一段時間 ....!因此,這種行為是不尋常的男人。也許這就是為什麼你採訪我。但它只是一個正常的女人,無處不在。
問:但是。什麼改變了你的生活。是不是?當你開始讀醫學院有時候......
答:不..不...因為我有一個偉大的母親。母親讓我哥哥和我,我們都一起工作生活在一起。他還是和我共同工作。他65歲。我64歲。我們為愛,因為我們的母親。
我的母親向我們展示了一個奇蹟:生活的方式可以是正派、善良和慷慨的她沒有使我結黨營私,直到我長大了,我才認識到她的世界和這個真實世界是不一樣的。我父親是一名職業軍人。。
問:我不知道這一點。
A:他死於服役當兵的時候。我在16歲時成為戰爭孤兒。
問:在越南?
答:不,更早一點。
問:第二次世界戰爭?
答:韓國。
問:在韓國。原來如此。
答:之後,1961年我們搬回美國的南方,那是為民權而抗爭的重要時刻,為當時沒有權利的黑人。
所以,過去高中兩年中我每天都活得很痛苦,然後我想自殺。我不希望生活在一個充滿暴力和不公正的世界。因此,在一年中我住院三次。因為我想自殺。
然後,誰知道,突然靈光一閃“KeeeKeehh ...”打醒我,說:“笨蛋!你不該殺自己。你應該起來革命。因此,在18歲,我開始了「愛」的成長演化。而且很容易上手,因為我的母親給了我自尊。您明白
“自尊”?
問:是的。我明白了。
答:她讓我知道,如果我決定的事,我就能做到。
問:那麼,你這樣做。
答:我已經做了46年。沒有中斷。
問:你周圍的許多事情改變了。因為如果你這樣做在一間醫院,每家醫院,在歐洲,我知道,我也認為你在美國也一樣。你看到許多人嗎?誰使你的理論真正實踐?所有的頂尖人士都在做小丑?
A:但你知道!他們迴避我的理論。
問:但是,它確實是一件有意義的事。
A:讓我向你解釋,小丑在醫院好像,這一根頭髮在我的頭上。你明白,我的想法是終結市場資本主義。小丑的想法,為什麼在醫院,因為醫院是可怕的地方。沒有人喜歡待在醫院。官僚化的醫生都很粗魯和傲慢,對待護士很壞,對大家也很不友善。醫院是嚴肅沉悶的,技術至上的 ...不,不,世界沒有一家醫學院在教「慈悲心」。
問:「慈悲心」。
答:當我是一個醫學學生,我看到的情形是這樣。更早在我去醫學院之前,我看到的世界,就是嚴肅沉悶的。在我18歲時,我決定進行這個愛的革命。我開始到處扮小丑搞笑,不會想到醫院,療養院,因為成人的世界是肅沉悶的。成人世界是被全球性的想法---金錢和權力的神所壓迫。所以,當我還在醫學院時,我就開設一間醫療醫院,它是免費的,是人人平的。你有很多時間給病人,你與病人生活在一起,生活中有很多的藝術。這些想法,也是我目前正在努力的,而不只是在醫院扮小丑搞笑。那只是一個,一道開胃菜...但是,有人拍了一部電影。 Qeee ....電影!電影就是希望門票大賣。
問:是的。
A:講愛情不會大賣。講和平也不會大賣,講正義也不會大賣。只有兩件事情會大賣:暴力和搞笑。因此,他們就把我「亞當斯醫師」簡化縮水。 “喔”,你知道“縮水”。他們使他成為一個非常搞笑的小醫生。 yalyala .....那麼,人們看到了電影之後,就說,「派奇」,一個愛搞笑的醫生!而不是一個想結束資本主義的醫生,更不是一個希望世界充滿愛的醫生。
問:是啊!
答:即使是那些看了這部電影,也願意在醫院扮小丑的人,他們甚至還不懂也許我也應該在街上搞笑裝小丑。
問:也許這也是..我覺得 ...噓 ....或許電影的表達是有限的,但也許 ...ㄜ ...去多方面瞭解人們是重要....一些生活的哲學,也許 ....不是你的人生觀 ....也許吧。更深入去瞭解,比電影的描述更深入。是啊。但或許電影裡也存在一些正面的東西。
答:嗯,如果你讓我在這次採訪中說什麼,我可以說正是因為這部電影才讓我來到這裡,讓我有機會說一些重要的事情。
問:但是我知道還有更深層次的東西 ... .例如,你的襯衫的顏色,我知道,我感覺到它的意思。
答:但是你看到的我的衣服也是我要傳達的部分信息。
問:是的。
答:讓大家展現更多的笑臉。此外,每當我在公眾場合看到暴力,我就立刻變成小丑角色,我要停止暴力。我要讓人們彼此更多連結。如果我的外表是這樣,而不是你的那樣子。
問:對不起!
答:這種樣子讓人們更容易連結。我能說一些我在米蘭做的事嗎?
問:好的。是的。我知道,你在那裡有訓練教學 ...
答:我在這裡和三個團體合作。 Irowen集團,Kazontai機構,提供免費的醫藥和歡樂,沒有官僚階級的醫療結構。醫藥:作為一個快樂的慶祝活動。
問:好
答:同時我也是意大利ClownOne計畫其中的一部分...
問:培訓一些人...
答:是的,意大利小丑計畫是訓練一些人。
問:你的哲學。
A:不同於那種正式的培訓;有培訓證書的小丑。我們重點是關於一個精神的,成為一個有愛心的人。意大利ClownOne計畫也旅行各地,做小丑工作坊,幫助人們進行「愛」的改革。
問:好的。
答:第三個團體,我在這裡,這所學校,我要設計一個社會,這是一個浪漫的想法,我們可以教人們去,進行命愛的改革和改變,讓世界擺脫市場的資本主義,變成充滿慈悲和慷慨。

這一段:派奇說:如果我們不向媽媽或者阿嬤學習「愛」,改變這個資本主義的世界,地球的人類是肯定會滅亡的。



兩位來自東西兩方的愛笑醫師相見歡(左: Dr.Madan Kataria 開創愛笑俱樂部之世界風潮)

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